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"Tweed" Princeton Clones

I have built quite a few Tweed Champs and Princetons. The first amp I ever built was a Champ based on the 5F1 circuit, but it is no longer in existence. I gutted it for parts for another project. I built the amp on terminal strips and it seemed to take forever to finish. I started building amps on eyelet boards starting with the next amp I built and have used that method of construction ever since.

Since that first amp, most of the amps I've built have been based on the Tweed Princeton circuit. It is a great platform for starting out. If you are beginner and just starting out, I recommend you start by building the 5F2-A Tweed Princeton amp. It is only slightly more complex than the 5F1 Tweed Champ, which has two gain stages driving a single ended power section running in Class A. The Tweed Princeton incorporated a simple (but usable!) tone control. The Princeton can be built in a small chassis, the parts count is fairly low and best of all it sounds really good! At low volumes they sound fat and smooth, cranked it distorts viciously. However, if you think that 5 watts isn't very loud, try cranking one up in a small room, you'll be very surprised.

Downloads:

Original 5F2-A Tweed Princeton: [schematic] [layout]
Original 5F1 Tweed Champ: [schematic] [layout]

New: Updated Tweed Princeton Schematic (.pdf file, 40kb)

New: Updated Tweed Princeton Wiring Diagram (.pdf file, 67kb)

This diagram is an update of the original. It improves the amp over the original in the following ways:

  • The filament wiring has been improved
  • Two 100 ohm resistors create an artificial center tap
  • A 120V neon lamp replaces the 6.3V lamp
  • Solid state rectifiers replace the 5Y3 rectifier tube
  • A three-prong power cord replaces the old two-prong type
  • The grounding scheme is improved
  • Standby switch added
  • Some of the component values have been tweaked to make the amp sound better

Recommended transfomers:

  • PT: 240-0-240 to 275-0-275 rated for at least 50mA; Hammond 270CAX
  • OT: 5K-7.5K primary, 5W, single ended, air gapped, rated for at least 50mA; Hammond 125CSE

A good place to get Hammond transformers in the United States is Radio Daze.


Below are some pix of the Princetons I've built.

Click on the thumbnail to get the larger picture:

One of my first Tweed Princetons

This is one of the first Tweed Princetons I built. I departed from the circuit by using a 6SL7 tube, which has the same characteristics as a 12AX7, but has lower gain and is an octal tube. It takes the same 8-pin socket that a 6V6 does. I kept the 6V6 power tube. The output transformer is from a Sundown Rocky amp. The power transformer is an NOS Triad R6-A. I lucked into a bunch of these cheap, and they are great to use in Tweed Princeton circuits.

This is a view of the underside of the amp. This amp mounts in a tweed-style cabinet with the tubes hanging down, the controls on top and the circuit access facing out. I originally built this amp to use a 6X5 rectifier, but tried out a plug with solid stated diodes.
This picture shows the circuit board and wiring. It is pretty messy, I've done lots of experimentation with the circuit values and it shows.

Another Tweed Princeton

This is another amp I built early on. It uses a 12AX7 for the pre amp and a 6V6GT for the power amp. Again the power transformer is a Triad R6-A. I'm not sure who makes the output transformer, I got it cheap when an electronics store sold all their remaining stock. The original output transformer was a Hammond 125E that I pulled for another project.
This picture shows the tubes. The chassis is a Bud Industries AC-401 that I got a deal on from a blow-out sale at a local electronics store. It measures 9.5" x 5" x 2.5' and worked great for this type of amp. Again, it mounts tweed-style in a combo cabinet.
Notice that the wiring is much neater. I also used RG-174U shielded wire to all the grids. The circuit board is G10 glass epoxy board that I got at a local plastics retailer which has since gone out of business.

Tweed Princeton with a Twist

This is yet another Princeton circuit but with a different output tube. I substituted a 6AQ5 tube for the 6V6GT. The 6AQ5 has similar electrical characteristics as the 6V6, but has a smaller base and a different pinout. It's ratings are somewhat lower than a 6V6's, but the plate voltage in this amp is only around 300v or so.
A shot of the tubes showing the 6AQ5. The actual tube here is a JAN (Joint Army-Navy) 6005 which was more mechanically rugged and designed to be used intermittently. The 6AQ5/6005 tube sound more chimey in this circuit, they have lot of top end. They sound edgy but creamy when pushed to distortion.
For this amp I used grade XX Garolite from McMaster-Carr for the circuit board. I had been using G10 glass epoxy board from the plastics supplier. I bought one sheet and soon after their price doubled. The Garolite from McMaster costs $2.18 for .062" x 3" x 48" strips. Their part number is 9322K22.

Tweed Princeton to Mount in a Head Cabinet

This was the first Tweed Princeton circuit that I built into a chassis for mounting in a head cabinet. The chassis sits on the bottom with the tubes sticking up. I used a Bud Industries AC-409 chassis which measures 13" x 7" x 2."
Again, I used the Triad PT. The output transformer is a Hammond 125ESE. Up until the 125SE series came out, Hammond advertised their 125E series for either push pull or single ended operation. Then Hammond developed the 125SE series for single ended use only and the 125E series is now only for push pull. The 125E worked great for smaller SE amps, but I like the 125ESE better. It is double the size of the 125E, and has better bottom end.
I used a piece of G10 glass epoxy board for the circuit board. Notice the orange drop capacitors on the left side.

Universal Octal Tweed Princeton

I built this amp as an experiment. I wanted to be able to use most common octal power amp tubes, 6V6, 6L6, EL34, and 6550. I used the Hammond 270EX and 125ESE. The best sounding tubes to me were the 6V6 and the 6550. The plate voltage is a little high to use 6V6, but I haven't had a problem using NOS 6V6s. Notice the boost switch on the front of the amp.
One great thing about the 125ESE is that it can match up a variety of primaries and secondaries. I put three jacks on the back just for that reason.
This is my cleanest wiring yet. Again I used the G10 glass epoxy board for the circuit board. I didn't use shielded wire for this project, and I didn't notice any extraneous noise.

All Octal, All Triode Tweed Princeton

I built this amp as an experiment. The pre amp tube is a 6SL7. The power tube is a 6BX7 which is in the same family as the 6SL7, 6SN7, 6080 and 6AS7. All are octal dual triodes with different electrical characteristics. All have the same pinout. The amp sounds fat and smooth clean, but gets ragged and mushy when pushed into distortion. I've also tried a 6SN7 in the amp as it has the same pinout, and it worked well. The distortion was smoother and less mushy. Even though the output power is less, the amp sounds almost as loud with the 6SN7
Again I used the Hammond 125ESE for the output. The PT is the Triad R6-A I have been using all along. The 6BX7 is a dual triode so both sections are in parallel single ended. I used the output section of this schematic. The pre amp is the same as the Princeton's with adjusted plate and cathode resistor values for the 6SL7.
Since a triode does not have a screen grid, I decoupled the first node of the power rail to the second with a 100 ohm resistor. The power tube plate supply is from the second node, and the pre amp tube plate supply is the last node of the power rail. Notice the 68µF cap across the first 22µF capacitor. The amp had a lot of power supply hum, but it all but vanished when I soldered the bigger cap into the circuit.
Another Universal Octal Tweed Princeton
This is a close up of the board. The board itself is made from G10 glass epoxy board. I like this much better than the Grade XX Garolite, but Garolite is much cheaper and works well. I usually solder the leads to the eyelet bofore installing the board. The recitfier diodes on the left are UF4007s, which are the ultra fast recovery version of the 1N4007. They are supposed to reduce power supply switching noise.
This is the first amp that I've used a face plate. I chose yellow since this amp will eventually be housed in a black head cabinet. The PT is an NOS Stancor PC8404. The OT is a Hammond 125ESE. This amp can use a variety of octal power tubes: 6V6, EL34, and 6L6. Notice the large, blue 330uF, 450v snap in cap. This amp is a lot stiffer sounding than a vintage amp with a similar circuit, but is dead quiet. Additionally, the amp has a master volume.
The back of the amp shows the three jacks for the OT. Different power tubes can match up to different speaker cabinets. The power tube is a Russian Sovtek 6V6, which sounds surprisingly good in this amp.
The wiring is much neater in this amp as it is being built for a friend. This is my neatest and most carefully wired amp yet. All grid leads are RG-174U sheilded wire. This amp is dead quiet. One interesting thing to note is that the master volume pot casing was not connected to ground at first. This caused extraneous noise when the MV was turned all the way up. It drove me crazy for several hours until I grounded the pot's casing and the noise went away.

 

 

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